(trendingpolitics) – The Washington Examiner recently did a phone interview with former President Donald Trump and boy did it come away with some big news about what his widely anticipated 2024 run might look like. As that outlet reports:
Former President Donald Trump is effectively ruling out tapping former Vice President Mike Pence as his running mate should he mount a third White House bid in 2024 and win the Republican nomination.
“I don’t think the people would accept it,” Trump told the Washington Examiner Tuesday evening during a wide-ranging telephone interview from Mar-a-Lago, his private social club and political headquarters in Palm Beach, Florida.
Speaking to the Washington Examiner on his relationship with Pence, Trump said “Mike and I had a great relationship except for the very important factor that took place at the end. We had a very good relationship,” Trump said. “I haven’t spoken to him in a long time.”
That “very important factor” would, of course, be Trump’s claims of voter fraud and demands that Pence intervene in the final days of the election.
Trump, of course, insisted that the election was stolen and repeatedly insisted that Pence overturn the results during the congressional certification of the Electoral College vote that would put Biden in office.
Pence, never one to go out on a limb with a radical attempt to save Republican rule like that, insisted that he couldn’t do so because, in his view, the Constitution granted him no such authority.
So, the two men split, and the way Trump talks about it, it sounds like the split is for good. As the Washington Examiner reports on what he said during their conversation:
“Mike thought he was going to be a human conveyor belt, that no matter how fraudulent the votes, you have to send them up to the Old Crow,” Trump said, using his nickname for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.
“But that turned out to be wrong. Because now, as you know, they are feverishly working to try and get it so that the vice president cannot do what Mike said he couldn’t do,” the former president added, referring to proposals to overhaul the Electoral Count Act. “Obviously, they were either lying, misrepresenting, or they didn’t know.”
“I was disappointed in Mike,” Trump said.
And that’s major news, as it means Trump’s going to be heading in a different direction if (more likely “when”) he runs in 2024, something he’s hinted many times recently that he might do.
For example, during his much-loved CPAC speech, he said:
“they’re going to find out the hard way, starting on Nov. 8, and then again, even more so in November 2024, they will find out like never before. We did it twice and we’ll do it again. We’re going to be doing it again a third time. The radical Left has tried to replace American democracy with woke tyranny. Our mission in 2022 and in 2024 is to take on this radical and power-hungry ruling class and to deliver them an electoral defeat.”
When asked by Full Send Podcast host whether he’d run for president again, with the host asking “The question is, Don, you’ve hinted at it. Are you coming back and gonna run for President of the United States?”, Trump responded by saying:
“The campaign finance laws don’t really allow you to discuss that unless you’re going to literally go through a different process,” Trump replied. “So, I think a lot of people are going to be really happy. You guys might be really happy but I think a lot of people are going to be very happy. But, I’ll wait.”
So, with all those different speeches and interviews in mind, along with the salient fact that he’s doing interviews and making speeches right now, it sure looks like he’s running again in 2024 and that Pence won’t be let anywhere near the ticket.
Next time, presumably, he’ll choose a rock-ribbed conservative knife fighter, perhaps of the DeSantis type, rather than a Conservative, Inc. sellout like Milquetoast Mike Pence.